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	<title>Comments on: Paparrazzi testing</title>
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	<description>Dagfinn Reiersøl on PHP, agile development, Ruby and other addictive substances</description>
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		<title>By: dagfinn</title>
		<link>http://blog.agilephp.com/2007/10/09/paparrazzi-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>dagfinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First: the spam filter managed to mark all of the three real comments as spam. I&#039;ll have to watch it more carefully.

About JavaScript and Selenium: If you have to test everything together and you have a lot of JavaScript, you do need something like Selenium -- or manual testing. But it&#039;s a good idea in any case to test the JavaScript in isolation. I&#039;ve tested JavaScript from the command line using Ecmaunit. But I still haven&#039;t found a way to get a DOM implementation working from those tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First: the spam filter managed to mark all of the three real comments as spam. I&#8217;ll have to watch it more carefully.</p>
<p>About JavaScript and Selenium: If you have to test everything together and you have a lot of JavaScript, you do need something like Selenium &#8212; or manual testing. But it&#8217;s a good idea in any case to test the JavaScript in isolation. I&#8217;ve tested JavaScript from the command line using Ecmaunit. But I still haven&#8217;t found a way to get a DOM implementation working from those tests.</p>
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		<title>By: Santosj</title>
		<link>http://blog.agilephp.com/2007/10/09/paparrazzi-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Santosj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to the same conclusion based on the requirements for acceptance testing of a web application. The choice of Selenium, while I still plan on writing code that uses it, adds more complexity to running the tests, than SimpleTest web browser. When all you need to know is that Field A and/or ID B exists, you don&#039;t need to run that through a real browser.

A normal user can do that just fine. A normal user will tell you exactly what went wrong in their browser and their version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to the same conclusion based on the requirements for acceptance testing of a web application. The choice of Selenium, while I still plan on writing code that uses it, adds more complexity to running the tests, than SimpleTest web browser. When all you need to know is that Field A and/or ID B exists, you don&#8217;t need to run that through a real browser.</p>
<p>A normal user can do that just fine. A normal user will tell you exactly what went wrong in their browser and their version.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob...</title>
		<link>http://blog.agilephp.com/2007/10/09/paparrazzi-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve hit the nail on the head with Selenium. It is soooo slow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head with Selenium. It is soooo slow!</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias Struckmeier</title>
		<link>http://blog.agilephp.com/2007/10/09/paparrazzi-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias Struckmeier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you dont test in a real browser, you dont get the browser specific and JavaScript errors.
Therefore starting a real browser makes sense. And how do you create the tests then? I like that recording approach of selenium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you dont test in a real browser, you dont get the browser specific and JavaScript errors.<br />
Therefore starting a real browser makes sense. And how do you create the tests then? I like that recording approach of selenium.</p>
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