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	<title>Comments on: The psychology of test-driven development</title>
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	<description>Dagfinn Reiersøl on PHP, agile development, Ruby and other addictive substances</description>
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		<title>By: Travis Swicegood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Swicegood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Peder, the point of TDD is that you are forced to figure out what problem you are answering.  What does the API look like?  What&#039;s the reaction when I call the method?  When is this thing done?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you&#039;ve answered those questions in the a way that will keep you accountable - the tests - then, and only then, you get to craft the simplest solution to make it work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not &quot;testing&quot; in the traditional sense.  Don&#039;t worry, you&#039;re not the only one who doesn&#039;t get it :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peder, the point of TDD is that you are forced to figure out what problem you are answering.  What does the API look like?  What&#8217;s the reaction when I call the method?  When is this thing done?</p>
<p>When you&#8217;ve answered those questions in the a way that will keep you accountable &#8211; the tests &#8211; then, and only then, you get to craft the simplest solution to make it work.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;testing&#8221; in the traditional sense.  Don&#8217;t worry, you&#8217;re not the only one who doesn&#8217;t get it <img src='http://blog.agilephp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dagfinn</title>
		<link>http://blog.agilephp.com/2008/06/02/the-psychology-of-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>dagfinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s an extremely interesting essay; thanks for pointing it out. It&#039;s a lot like what I try to do, and there&#039;s no actual contradiction. There are degrees of fun and tedious. At some point, you have to implement something, and hopefully in the least tedious way you can find.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an extremely interesting essay; thanks for pointing it out. It&#8217;s a lot like what I try to do, and there&#8217;s no actual contradiction. There are degrees of fun and tedious. At some point, you have to implement something, and hopefully in the least tedious way you can find.</p>
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		<title>By: Peder Rice</title>
		<link>http://blog.agilephp.com/2008/06/02/the-psychology-of-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Peder Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I will refer you to a favorite essay of mine:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://paulgraham.com/newthings.html&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fun of programming, in my mind, is to craft a design that hasn&#039;t been done before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Testing and implementing aren&#039;t exactly new and exciting, and I therefore find them tedious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will refer you to a favorite essay of mine:</p>
<p><a href="http://paulgraham.com/newthings.html" rel="nofollow">http://paulgraham.com/newthings.html</a></p>
<p>The fun of programming, in my mind, is to craft a design that hasn&#8217;t been done before.</p>
<p>Testing and implementing aren&#8217;t exactly new and exciting, and I therefore find them tedious.</p>
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